tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-329800043283255166.post4736787826629466671..comments2023-11-05T07:41:04.214-05:00Comments on Strong Verse: Silliman on School of Quietude, Oxford, and Academic PoetryG. M. Palmerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14515043039690357593noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-329800043283255166.post-32987705699124895062009-06-30T11:18:01.932-04:002009-06-30T11:18:01.932-04:00i'm interested in the notion of bad poetry - t...i'm interested in the notion of bad poetry - that there are no consequnces...basically i think there should be some consequnces...i mean if a poet were writing poetry knowing that the publication of such might mean a firing squad it would follow that the poetry would be of a deeper quality...would it not?<br /><br />prison might be a more humane option but i do think the poets should know that if they're going to be putting some stuff out there they may have to pay dearly....and then perhaps their best stuff would be discovered long after they die...and that would be ever exciting for literary people<br /><br />hey pal what you in for<br /><br />yeah i got 20 yrs for one damn bad poem<br /><br />did you tell the judge you were sorry<br /><br />hell no at the time i thought it was a pretty good poem<br /><br />now of course i think differently<br />i could die before i get out<br /><br />don't worry we have some grad students at the U looking for some good historical material<br />you'll live on in literary criticism<br />believe me<br /><br />jjhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10043530995274885830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-329800043283255166.post-22017173337591620712009-06-12T17:37:02.201-04:002009-06-12T17:37:02.201-04:00gah...you're right, obviously. but i guess i w...gah...you're right, obviously. but i guess i was thinking exclusively of "literary fiction" and the avant-garde. i don't know what kind of novels silliman would consider SoQ...best-sellers like Dan Brown? hah<br /><br />and while there are different divisions of fiction, "literary" or not, i don't notice nearly as much posturing of who's more authentic/original/___________ (at least that's the sense i get) as i do with all these poetry camps (esp. from the "a-g" variety). if it's good, it's good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-329800043283255166.post-64766175209452025152009-06-11T20:47:06.516-04:002009-06-11T20:47:06.516-04:00You very much do see these divisions in fiction --...You very much do see these divisions in fiction -- scifi, fantasy, "literature," romance, historical fiction, mystery, thriller, etc.G. M. Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14515043039690357593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-329800043283255166.post-76344669150592080272009-06-11T02:36:11.114-04:002009-06-11T02:36:11.114-04:00"if i like it i like it!"
exactly. i..."if i like it i like it!"<br /><br />exactly. i'm getting tired of reading about schools--avant-garde, post-avant, langpo, quietude, flarf [don't get me started on that one]...<br /><br />& the thing is, you don't see these kinds of divisions in fiction.<br /><br />if it's good, it's good!<br /><br />so why can't we just focus on writing/reading good poetry?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-329800043283255166.post-84038399720589564372009-06-04T14:17:19.724-04:002009-06-04T14:17:19.724-04:00i tried to right a romance novel..but it was too p...i tried to right a romance novel..but it was too painful :)<br /><br />even after having gone through an mfa i'm not a fan of constantly classing poetry.<br /><br />if i like it i like it!<br /><br />(haven't been to silliman's blog in about a year i have to say)Jessie Cartyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13181286764480973423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-329800043283255166.post-91928192248831870302009-05-31T15:50:05.812-04:002009-05-31T15:50:05.812-04:00//Producing art is only one half of it. //
Yes, b...//Producing art is only one half of it. //<br /><br />Yes, but it's the only half that's remembered. No matter how much mediocrity is pumped out by mediocre editors and artists, none of it will be remembered. I'm not worried. Even in terms of distribution, Silliman is mostly irrelevant.<br /><br />But then it's *not for me* to tell anyone what to do. I enjoyed reading your riposte.<br /><br />//Still no actual poetry in the news though. . //<br /><br />Yeah, telling isn't it...<br /><br />//Nice to hear from you, anyway -- how are things in VT?//<br /><br />Yes, nice to check in. VT is beautiful. Black fly season hasn't been bad. But it's not a good time to be a builder. Work is slow. I may have more time to write than I planned.<br /><br />I've got to find a way to sell out. Maybe a cheesy Romance novel...Patrickhttp://poemshape.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-329800043283255166.post-20971687065441393392009-05-31T15:23:57.381-04:002009-05-31T15:23:57.381-04:00Patrick --
Producing art is only one half of it. ...Patrick --<br /><br />Producing art is only one half of it. Art must also be distributed. Silliman, for good or ill, represents at least a portion of those involved in poetry distribution (even if they're doing a piss-poor job of it). <br /><br />Ergo, as a writer concerned with both the production and promotion of better, more-appealing poetry, I feel inclined to give a retort to Ron.<br /><br />Also, the Walcott dustup was the most press poetry's gotten in a while.<br /><br />Still no actual <B>poetry</B> in the news though. . .<br /><br />Nice to hear from you, anyway -- how are things in VT?G. M. Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14515043039690357593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-329800043283255166.post-69834961021920698242009-05-31T13:51:02.324-04:002009-05-31T13:51:02.324-04:00I haven't visited Silliman's blog in months. He re...I haven't visited Silliman's blog in months. He really doesn't have all that much to say - to me at least. The last time I was there he was making the same arguments. <br /><br />I just followed your link. I have no idea who all the respondents are. However, my guess is that they are all involved in the poetry *business* - professionals and students. No one outside the poetry business would ever go to Silliman's blog to learn anything about poetry.<br /><br />Silliman's blog is an "insider's blog". And to the extent that modern poetry is a largely an irrelevant art form, Silliman's opinions are probably of interest to .01 of .01 percent of the reading public.<br /><br />I wouldn't get too exercised about his opinions unless you want to end up in that same pool of minnows.<br /><br />Nobody is listening to him.<br /><br />Well... ok... I think I maybe counted 12 or 13 individuals who commented on his post - out of the billions of people on this planet.<br /><br />Get busy writing poetry. It's the only thing that anyone will remember - if anything at all.Patrickhttp://poemshape.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-329800043283255166.post-77029131448455688292009-05-30T19:59:47.955-04:002009-05-30T19:59:47.955-04:00I loved your line where you said that they were so...I loved your line where you said that they were so GOOD at it. Nice hit, and wow, so true. LANG-PO are like self-organizing bacteria!Kirby Olsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943noreply@blogger.com